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Grosser Schweizer Sennenhund - Veliki švicarski planinski pas

History of the GSMD

Origins
The Greater Swiss Mountain Dog is considered the oldest of the Swiss breeds and was instrumental in the early development of both the St. Bernard and the Rottweiler. There are several theories regarding the ancient origins of the Swiss Sennenhund breeds. The most popular theory states the dogs are descended from the Mollasian, a large Mastiff-type dog that accompanied the Roman Legions on their invasion of the Alps in the 1st century B.C. However, a second theory holds that the Phoenicians (c. 1100 B.C.) brought a large breed of dog with them to settlements in Spain, and that these dogs later migrated eastward to influence the development of the Spanish Mastiff, Great Pyrenees, Dogue de Bordeaux, and eventually the large Swiss breeds. Yet a third possibility is that a large breed was indigenous to central Europe as far back as the Neolithic period. Whether or not a large breed was already in existence at the time of the Roman invasion of the Alpine regions, it seems clear that the Roman dogs would have been bred with these dogs. As a result, several breeds, including the Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, St. Bernard, and Bernese Mountain Dog, are largely descended from the Roman Mollasian.
 
Early History in Europe
The early ancestors of the Swissy were used by farmers, herdsmen, and merchants in central Europe. Selective breeding was more commonly based on the dog's ability to perform a particular function, such as pulling loads or guarding, rather than on any acknowledged breed standard. Consequently, a group of dogs bred to perform a certain function took the name of that activity, such as Viehhunde, or cattle dog. By the 19th century, the ancestors of the modern Swissy were widely used in central Europe by farmers, and tradesmen, and were often referred to as, Metzgerhunde, or "Butcher's Dogs". They were large, muscular dogs, some with tri-colored markings, though red/white and black/tan coloring were also prevalent. At one time these dogs were believed to have been among the most popular dogs in Switzerland. However, by 1900 their numbers had severely dwindled. This decrease in numbers is possibly due to the increasing availability of mechanized transport as an alternative to the traditional use of the Swissy as a draft dog.
 
The Contributions of Albert Heim
At the 1908 jubilee dog show, held to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Schweizerische Kynologische Gesellschaft (Swiss Kennel Club or SKG), two entries were described as "short-haired Bernese Mountain Dogs". In attendance at this event, was Professor Albert Heim, a canine researcher and distinguished expert on the Swiss Sennenhund breeds. Professor Heim recognized these dogs to be members of the large Sennenhund type, and pressed for their recognition as a separate breed. The following year, the SKG listed the Grosser Schweizer Sennenhund (Greater Swiss Mountain Dog) in the Swiss Stud Book.


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The Greater Swiss Mountain Dog is a Draft and Drover breed and should structurally appear as such. It is a striking, tri-colored, large, powerful, confident dog of sturdy appearance. It is a heavy boned and well muscled dog which, in spite of its size and weight, is agile enough to perform the all-purpose farm duties of the mountainous regions of its origin.

Size, Proportion, and Substance
Height at the highest point on the shoulder is ideally:

Dogs: 25.5 to 28.5 inches
Bitches: 23.5 to 27 inches
Body length to height is approximately a 10 to 9 proportion, thus appearing slightly longer than tall. It is a heavy boned and well muscled dog of sturdy appearance.

Head


Expression is animated and gentle. The eyes are almond shaped and brown, dark brown preferred, medium sized, neither deep set nor protruding. Blue eye or eyes is a disqualification. Eyelids are close fitting and eyerims are black. The ears are medium sized, set high, triangular in shape, gently rounded at the tip, and hang close to the head when in repose. When alert, the ears are brought forward and raised at the base. The top of the ear is level with the top of the skull. The skull is flat and broad with a slight stop. The backskull and muzzle are of approximately equal length. The backskull is approximately twice the width of the muzzle. The muzzle is large, blunt and straight, not pointed and most often with a slight rise before the end. In adult dogs the nose leather is always black. The lips are clean and as a dry-mouthed breed, flews are only slightly developed. The teeth meet in a scissors bite.

Neck, Topline, and Body



The neck is of moderate length, strong, muscular and clean. The topline is level from the withers to the croup. The chest is deep and broad with a slight protruding breastbone. The ribs are well-sprung. Depth of chest is approximately one half the total height of the dog at the withers. Body is full with slight tuck up. The loins are broad and strong. The croup is long, broad and smoothly rounded to the tail insertion. The tail is thick from root to tip, tapering slightly at the tip, reaching to the hocks, and carried down in repose. When alert and in movement, the tail may be carried higher and slightly curved upwards, but should not curl, or tilt over the back. The bones of the tail should feel straight.

Forequarters



The shoulders are long, sloping, strong and moderately laid back. They are flat and well-muscled. Forelegs are straight and strong. The pasterns slope very slightly, but are not weak. Feet are round and compact with well arched toes, and turn neither in nor out. The dewclaws may or may not be present.

Hindquarters
The thighs are broad, strong and muscular. The stifles are moderately bent and taper smoothly into the hocks. The hocks are well let down and straight when viewed from the rear. Feet are round and compact with well arched toes, and turn neither in nor out. Dewclaws should be removed.
 
Coat
Topcoat is dense, approximately 1-1/4 to 2 inches in length. Undercoat must be present and may be thick and sometimes showing, almost always present at neck but may be present throughout. Color of undercoat ranges from the preferred dark gray to light gray to tawny. Total absence of undercoat is undesirable and should be penalized.
 
Color
The topcoat is black. The markings are rich rust and white. Symmetry of markings is desired. On the head, rust typically appears over each eye, on each cheek and on the underside of the ears. On the body, rust appears on both sides of the forechest, on all four legs and underneath the tail. White markings appear typically on the head (blaze) and muzzle. The blaze may vary in length and width. It may be a very thin stripe or wider band. The blaze may extend just barely to the stop or may extend over the top of the skull and may meet with white patch or collar on the neck. Typically, white appears on the chest , running unbroken from the throat to the chest, as well as on all four feet and on the tip of the tail. White patches or collar on the neck is acceptable. Any color other than the "Black, Red and White" tri-colored dog described above, such as "Blue/Charcoal, Red and White" or "Red and White" is considered a disqualification. When evaluating the Greater Swiss Mountain Dog, markings and other cosmetic factors should be considered of lesser importance than other aspects of type which directly affect working ability.
 
Gait
Good reach in front, powerful drive in rear. Movement with a level back.
 
Temperament
Bold, faithful, willing worker. Alert and vigilant. Shyness or aggressiveness shall be severely penalized.
 
Summary
The foregoing is the description of the ideal Greater Swiss Mountain Dog. Defects of both structure and temperament are to be judged more severely than mere lack of elegance because they reduce the animal's capacity to work. Any fault that detracts from the above described working dog should be penalized to the extent of the deviation.
 
Disqualifications
Any color other than the "Black, Red and White" tri-colored dog described above, such as "Blue/Charcoal, Red and White" or "Red and White". Blue eye or eyes.

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« Odgovor #1 : Rujan 03, 2005, 11:24:58 »

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« Odgovor #2 : Rujan 03, 2005, 11:51:46 »

http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/episwissies.html

Zanimljiv site o epilepsiji kod Velikih Svicarskih a i opcenito o epilepsiji
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« Odgovor #3 : Rujan 06, 2005, 12:07:11 »

sviđa mi se ova pasmina. primjetila sam da mi se većinom sviđaju sve planinske pasmine icon_smile
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« Odgovor #4 : Svibanj 31, 2006, 12:29:40 »

Dali postoji u HRVATSKOJ UZGOJ TIH PASA !?

KUPIO BIH JEDNOG!!

Kolika im se krece cijena, dali netko za!?
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« Odgovor #5 : Svibanj 31, 2006, 12:35:06 »

Mislim da u Sloveniji ima kvalitetnih pasa, kod nas ne znam..
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« Odgovor #6 : Svibanj 31, 2006, 12:55:51 »

da znam da ih u sloveniji ima...

ali mislio sam da mozda ima i tu!?

a cjena takvih pasa!?
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« Odgovor #7 : Lipanj 01, 2006, 12:26:45 »

U Hrvatskoj ima jedna uzgajivačnica u Puli, ali nemaju često štence (mislim da su imali samo 1-2 legla do sada). Za više informacija ti je najbolje da nazoveš HKS - www.hks.hr .
A što se tiče cijene, mislim da se kreće negdje između 700-1000 eura. Ali to svaka uzgajivačnica postavi neku svoju cijenu, pa ćeš više saznati ako nazoveš hks da ti daju broj telefona uzgajivačnice.
Evo ti i web stranica od slovenskog kinološkog, pa ih i tamo možeš pitati za brojeve i informacije uzg. - http://www.kinoloska-zveza.si/
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« Odgovor #8 : Lipanj 01, 2006, 12:51:31 »

Možeš se obratiti i Slovenskom klubu za velike pasmine i molose:


http://www.skvpm-klub.si/pasme/velikisvicar.html


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« Odgovor #9 : Lipanj 18, 2006, 01:05:25 »

VELIKI ŠVAJCARSKI PASTIRSKI PAS   [FCI No. 58]

Upotreba: Prvobitno čuvar i pas za vuču, danas pas za pratnju, odbranu i porodični pas.

Istorijat: Preci velikog švajcarskog pastirskog psa, bili su ranije rašireni po srednjoj Evropi, često kao mesarski psi (Matin), snažni, trobojni, ponekad crno braon ili žuti. Rado su ih gajili mesari, vodiči stada, zanatlije i seljaci za odbranu, teranje stoke ili za vuču. Prilikom jubilarne izložbe povodom 25 godina postojanja SKG - Švajcarskog kinološkog saveza, 1908. u Langentalu, prvi put su dva takva psa, kao"kratkodlaki bernski pastirski pas" izvedena na ocenjivanje profesora Albertu Hajmu.

Od SKG, kao posebna rasa apriznat je kao ,Yeliki švajcarski pastirski pas" i upisan u Švajcarsku rodovnu knjigu u tomu 12. 1909. U kantonu Bern, pronađeni su novi primerci, koji odgovaraju Hajmsovom opisu i vođen je sistematski čisti uzgoj. U januaru 1912. osnovan je"Klub fr Grose Schweizer Sennenhunde", koji je preuzeo dalju negu i napredak ove rase. Dugo godina uzgojna baza je ostala uska, pa je naročito bilo teško nabaviti podesnu ženku. Tek od 1933. godišnje se upisivalo više od 50 pasa u SHSB. Standard je od FCI-a prvi put publikovan 05.02.1939.
Priznavanje i snažnije širenje donelo je rasi potvrdu da je dovoljno pouzdan za vuču i nošenje, u službi švajcarske armije tokom 2. Svetskog rata, tako da je 1945. prvi put upisano više od 100 štenadi i bilo je oko 350-400 pasa. Danas se rasa uzgaja takođe i u susednim zemljama, a njena mirna i uravnotežena narav doprinela je da se uglavnom ceni kao porodični pas.

Opšti izgled: Trobojan, kršan, jakih kostiju i dobro mišićav pas. Uprkos veličini i težini
pokazuje izdržljivost i pokretljivost.

Proporcije: Dužina tela : visini grebena = 10:9. Dubina grudi : visina grebena 1:2,
dužina lobanje : dužina nosnika = 1:1, širina nosnika : širina lobanje = 1:2.

Karakter i narav: Siguran, pažljiv, oprezan i bez straha u svim dnevnim situacijama, dobrodušan i privržen sa poznatim osobama, siguran u sebe prema stranim osobama, srednjeg temperamenta.

Glava: Odgovarajuće snažna prema telu, ali ne teška. Glava mužjaka snažnija nego glava ženke.

Gornji deo glave: Ravan i širok. Središnja brazda počinje od stopa i produžava se na gore.

Stop: Malo izražen.

Lični deo

Nos: Crna nosna pečurka. Nosm'k ravan bez središnje brazde.

Njuška: Snažna, duža nego duboka, nije špicasta gledano ni odozgo, ni sa strane.

Usne: Malo izražene, priležuće, crne boje.

Zubalo: Potpuno, snažno i pravilno makazasto. Toleriše se nedostatak jednog Pl i jednog P2. Treći molar M3 se ne uzima u obzir.

Oči: Bademaste, srednje velike, ni upale ni buljave, lešnikovo do kestenjasto braon sa otresitim, prijateljskim izrazom. Kapci dobro naležu.

Uši: Srednje velike, trouglaste i usađene prilično visoko. U mirovanju ravno naležuće, pri povećanoj opreznosti usmerene ka napred. Dobro odlakane iznutra i spolja.

Vrat: Snažan, mišićav, pre je zdepast. Bez podgušnjaka.

Telo

Leđa: Osrednje duga, snažna i ravna.

Slabine: Široke i jako mišićave.

Sapi: Duge i široke, padajuće u blagom zaobljenju.

Grudi: Snažne, široke, dopiru do laktova. Rebarni kavez okruglo - ovalnog poprečnog preseka, nije ravan niti bačvast. Dobro razvijene predgrudi, široko se spuštaju.

Stomak: Bokovi i stomak malo prikupljeni.

Rep: Prilično težak, dopire do skočnog zgloba. U mirovanju opušten, pri oprezu i u kretanju viši od blago na gore savijen, ali nikada uvijen ili iznad leđa nošen.

Prednje noge: Postavljene su pre široko nego usko, gledano od napred ravne i paralelne.

Lopatice: Duge, snažne, kose, priležuće i dobro mišićave. Sa nadlakticom zaklapa ne previše tup ugao.

Podlaktica: Snažnih kostiju, ravna.

Došaplje: Čvrsto, posmatrano od napred ravno, gledano sa strane postavljeno bliže vertikali.

Zadnje noge: Posmatrano od pozadi ravne, ne preuske. Došaplje i šape nisu izvrnuti napolje ni unutra. Zaperci moraju biti odstranjeni.

Butina: Prilično duga. Gledano sa strane sa relativno dugom potkolenicom čini jasan tup ugao. But snažan, širok i dobro mišićav.

Skočni zglob: Snažan i dobro uglovan.

Šape: Snažne, pravo upravljene, zatvorene, sa izraženim zaobljenjem prstiju i snažnim noktima.

Kretanje: Osvaja prostor, ravnomeran tok u svim vrstama kretanja. Dug slobodan iskorak, sa dobrim potiskom zadnjih nogu. U kasu gledano od napred i od pozadi pravolinijska akcija nogu.

Dlaka: Dvostruka, sa gustom srednje dugom pokrovnom dlakom, i gušćom po mogućstvu tamnosivom do crnom podlakom. Dozvoljena je kraća pokrovna dlaka pri propisanoj podlaci.

Boja: Osnovna boja je crna sa braon i crvenim paležom i belim simetričnim oznakama. Braon-crvena nalazi se između crne i belih oznaka na obrazima, iznad očiju, na unutrašnjoj strani ušiju, postrano na grudima, na sve četiri noge i na donjoj strani repa. Bele oznake nalaze se na glavi (lisa) i njušci, na guši i grudima, šapama i vrhu repa. Između liše i crveno braon oznaka iznad očiju treba da ostane jedna crna pruga. Toleriše se bela fleka napotiljku ili bela kragna.

Veličina: Mužjaci 65-72 cm, a ženke 60-68 cm.

Greške: Svako odstupanje od gore navedenog smatra se greškom, čije ocenjivanje stoji u tačnoj srazmeri sa stepenom izraženosti.

- Jako odstupanje od telesne proporcije i veličine.
- Greške u građi.
- Nedostajuće polne odlike.
- Previše fine ili previše grube kosti.
- Nedovoljna mišićavost.
- Preteška ili prelaka glava.
- Viseće usne.
- Previsoko, prenisko ili predaleko unazad usađene uši.
- Klještasto zubalo, predgriz, podgriz.
- Nedostatak više od IxP-^ ili lxP2.
- Entropijum, ektropijum.
- Svetle oči.
- Ulegla leđa.
- Loše nošen rep.
- Loša uglovanost prednjih ili zadnjih nogu.
- Rašireni prsti.
- Svetlucavo probijajuća žućkasto braon ili svetio siva podlaka.
- Greške u oznakama: nedostatak oznaka na glavi, preširoka lisa, belina na njušci koja se prostire jasno dalje od ugla usana, bele čizmice (višlje od prednjeg ili zadnjeg došaplja), oznake upadljivo asimetrične, nečista boja.

Isključujuće greške:

- Nedostajuća trobojnost.
- Plašt druge boje osim crne.
- Plave oči.
- Kratka dlaka bez podlake.
- Duga dlaka.
- Teške greške u naravi (preterana agresivnost ili plašljivost)

N.B. Mužjaci treba da imaju dva normalno razvijena testisa, potpuno spuštena u skrotum.

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« Odgovor #10 : Lipanj 19, 2006, 11:40:36 »

Da bude fer, evo i povijesnih Velikih švicarskih pasa (joj što volim gledati stare slike icon_lol)









i nešto noviji tip
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« Odgovor #11 : Listopad 06, 2006, 01:16:07 »

Zanima me paralelna usporedba između velikog švicarskog pasa i bernskog planinskog. zanimaju me razlike u temperamentu i karakteru.
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« Odgovor #12 : Listopad 06, 2006, 09:32:53 »

Koliko sam ih ja vidjela u živo i u velikom broju, oni su po mojem zaključku bolji čuvari, ponešto žešći po tom pitanju ali u detalje ne znam... Osim dlake za vanjsku razliku i po veličini su veći.
Jesi zvao HKS?
U Puli ima jedna i mislim jedina uzgajivačnica u Hrvatskoj, pa bi njih mogao kontaktirati.
Znaš možda engleski, jer ima puno o njima na internetu.
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« Odgovor #13 : Listopad 08, 2006, 03:45:05 »

blue_one:
mi imamo velike švicarske planinske pse (kratko: swissy).

Ako te nešto zanima o ovoj divnoj pasmini, možeš slobodno pitati! icon_wink
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« Odgovor #14 : Listopad 08, 2006, 07:05:47 »

 welcome swissy!

Nadam se da ćete nam ovdje ispričati svoja iskustva s ovom predivnom pasminom.
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